tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post9118258271718654258..comments2023-07-13T05:23:08.851-05:00Comments on Blue Cheese & Apples: Dear IBM: Email is Not a CommodityPhil Salmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14950258966621282576noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-28351876396671082172019-01-31T03:07:54.880-06:002019-01-31T03:07:54.880-06:00Thanks for sharing information.
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Hopefully it will be taken seriously!Lisa Dukehttp://www.simplified-tech.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-90181349632839310442011-09-24T18:53:19.902-05:002011-09-24T18:53:19.902-05:00What may be frustrating you about IBM's messag...What may be frustrating you about IBM's message is that you're applying the message to everyone when IBM's Target market is traditonally the top 1%. I would say MS "get" the whole 100% whilst IBM are still trying to figure it the other %99. Besides the margins are much lower in the "tail". IBM need the high margins to support a bloated organisational structure. So don't expect change any time soongrumpy_coderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523665554150518653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-76774044456119942682011-09-23T17:02:16.886-05:002011-09-23T17:02:16.886-05:00Agreed. In my organization, IBM lost the battle i...Agreed. In my organization, IBM lost the battle in email, then UC, then the application side, then Websphere... It is a "Domino" effects... <br /><br />"Domino" effect...ouch...<br /><br />"Email as a commodity", thanks, but no thanks. New Lotus Notes that looks like a unpolished facebook markup, no, again.Vincent Yeunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03675164859663363858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-4899679878320691412011-09-23T12:50:37.692-05:002011-09-23T12:50:37.692-05:00@Arif, I don't agree that the commoditization ...@Arif, I don't agree that the commoditization of mail is less so in the cloud vs on premise. I would actually argue the reverse. Yahoo webmail vs. GMail I would say most users don't really care that much. Notes vs outlook client most users do care. So commoditization actually is worse in the hosted/cloud environments. However, regardless of whether it is in cloud or on-premise I think Phil's point is; Don't commoditize email (in terms of one vendor's product being the same as the others). Instead fight a battle to market that your email package (cloud or on premise doesn't matter) is better than the competitors. Because doing so gives you leverage for other products. I would agree that IBM shouldn't concede or capitulate on the email front and say "we don't care about email, use ours, use theirs, doesn't matter we will make our money somewhere else". Fight the battle, ensure that your email platform is a contender in user's mindshare because it does represent an asset in leveraging other technology/revenue within organizations.Chris Faleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04845956922276963426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-34966276346328979072011-09-23T12:11:12.163-05:002011-09-23T12:11:12.163-05:00Interestingly enough I think you show email is the...Interestingly enough I think you show email is the commodity and I feel it is. The same as Instant Messaging. People expect it to be on like the commodity dial tone. What you just sold me was the cool enhancements and possibilities written email, instant messaging and working with individuals.<br /><br />No I do not buy the whole social business mantra either (you know me better than that), but I do feel email is now only valued on the additional layers, not just the ability to send and receive. Or we would still have cc:Mail tooIdoNoteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066273905524270230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-63531031079329053822011-09-23T11:23:31.642-05:002011-09-23T11:23:31.642-05:00Phil, great post. I am just working with a new cl...Phil, great post. I am just working with a new client that we are moving their email over to Domino. By doing that it also bring Quickr in and a hold brunch of applications that we are creating. Email is still the most important communication methodologies that companies and individuals have. If the CEO cannot get his email "All Hell Breaks Loose". Each time I hear that Email is dead I laugh, because I have heard this all before. If IBM was winning the email war, their entire tune about email would be totally different. Look what Google has done, get you hooked on Gmail, feed you GoogleDocs and then get you on applications. That should have been IBM's strategy with Domino. Google is marketing the product not the brand because it is a portal to the brand. Partners are in the trenches and see it all the time.Domino Interfacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691103099491985535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-65862152925975147272011-09-23T09:12:35.295-05:002011-09-23T09:12:35.295-05:00Really nice read Phil. Well articulated. Althoug...Really nice read Phil. Well articulated. Although I agree with you on email still having value and being necessary for all the reasons you outlined, can we not draw a distinction between email on the client side and email in the cloud? I know that my personal gmail email account is very valuable because it allows me to use all the great things that google is doing for the consumer (chrome, igoogle, google docs, google+) and allows me to access 3rd party apps. So, I can understand why IBM doesn't care if it looses a client's email to outlook (legacy to legacy). In a few years, it looks like IBM is predicting that all enterprise email will eventually go to the cloud anyways and that is when the big wins will happen.Arif Jafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17247984000286547162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-85207534083705058722011-09-23T09:10:47.188-05:002011-09-23T09:10:47.188-05:00@Keith I can't imagine sending a five year cos...@Keith I can't imagine sending a five year cost analysis on software licensing via a tweet. If by some chance social software does completely replace email in the future, it isn't relevant to today. My company cares about what it is selling now. When IBM discusses our numbers, they don't say "we're not concerned with sales today, we're building a new market". IBM has led Microsoft in the market with Notes, Sametime and Quickr, only to see Microsoft copy and outsell with their products. As I said to a friend recently, you can't always be skating in front of the puck and still expect to score goals. At some point you have to check your competition up against the boards.Phil Salmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14950258966621282576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-57882923904735103002011-09-23T08:41:29.406-05:002011-09-23T08:41:29.406-05:00+ 1 to Kieth's comment+ 1 to Kieth's commentMark Hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03166020109635632282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-59967542845834422382011-09-23T08:15:49.868-05:002011-09-23T08:15:49.868-05:00Nice Post Phil.
Damn you Newman, you always beat ...Nice Post Phil. <br />Damn you Newman, you always beat me!<br />I admit email itself is ubiquitous but prefer to think of it like cars. Cars are ubiquitous, yet someone drives a Porsche, BMW, Maybach, Hyundai or Toyota. <br />Perhaps we and IBM need to reposition this?<br />On the other hand, what if email will be like the Telegraph soon?<br />True Internal IM and SM are not helpful to the outside world. But if everyone and everything used, as an example, Twitter, why would you need email?<br />So the present is one thing, the future is another. IBM looks at the future always and we as BPs look at the present.Keith Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11107190540208956954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1059854738407692869.post-17275978838308018702011-09-23T02:20:33.791-05:002011-09-23T02:20:33.791-05:00Hear. Hear. Great post Phil. Email still owns the ...Hear. Hear. Great post Phil. Email still owns the 'hearts and minds' within an organisation. Get that right, and you can build your entire application infrastructure around it, which is infinitely easier from within Notes than many other platforms.<br /><br />Your points on Live Text and widgets are critical here, Smart Tags are no-where near as powerful as live-text and recognisers, especially when considering they can extend the Notes client to any system with a web interface, which almost all now have. Sad that I come across too many organisations that are not aware how powerful this feature is.Mat Newmanhttp://www.matnewman.comnoreply@blogger.com